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We now have a convicted felon running for president!
A former president was convicted on all 34 charges after 7.5 hours of deliberation by the jury.
Honestly, I did not expect a sweep, I was expecting some of the charges to fail. But he badly hampered his defense, then really messed up with slandering the judge repeatedly in addition to directly disrespecting the jury by not standing when they came in. He didn't do much to try to present himself as a likable, respectable person.
It's possible that this was the tactic all along, to accept this as a loss and tie it up for eternity on appeal. Regardless, his status as a convicted felon is now cemented.
There is one thing that would wipe away the convictions, though: if he dies before appeals are exhausted. That's what happened to the head of Enron.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-found-guilty-hush-money-trial-1235029425/
ETA: He was convicted of falsifying business records, i.e. trying to conceal/structure the payments to Stormy Daniels to hide them from discovery. The issue of him having had sex with Stormy was completely irrelevant. Just like his second trial re E. Jean Carrol, he had already been found guilty of slandering her, the defense in both cases were arguing the wrong points.
Normally under NY State Law, falsifying business records is a misdemeanor, but if it was "done to “commit another crime or to aid or conceal” another crime — in this case, violations of election laws", then it becomes a Class E felony, potentially punishable by prison time of 1-4 years.
The likelihood of this being the sentence is not high, more probable of a fine and probation, but it's still a felony conviction. Which means, as I recall, he cannot vote in Florida until after the probation is over and the fines are paid.
Honestly, I did not expect a sweep, I was expecting some of the charges to fail. But he badly hampered his defense, then really messed up with slandering the judge repeatedly in addition to directly disrespecting the jury by not standing when they came in. He didn't do much to try to present himself as a likable, respectable person.
It's possible that this was the tactic all along, to accept this as a loss and tie it up for eternity on appeal. Regardless, his status as a convicted felon is now cemented.
There is one thing that would wipe away the convictions, though: if he dies before appeals are exhausted. That's what happened to the head of Enron.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-found-guilty-hush-money-trial-1235029425/
ETA: He was convicted of falsifying business records, i.e. trying to conceal/structure the payments to Stormy Daniels to hide them from discovery. The issue of him having had sex with Stormy was completely irrelevant. Just like his second trial re E. Jean Carrol, he had already been found guilty of slandering her, the defense in both cases were arguing the wrong points.
Normally under NY State Law, falsifying business records is a misdemeanor, but if it was "done to “commit another crime or to aid or conceal” another crime — in this case, violations of election laws", then it becomes a Class E felony, potentially punishable by prison time of 1-4 years.
The likelihood of this being the sentence is not high, more probable of a fine and probation, but it's still a felony conviction. Which means, as I recall, he cannot vote in Florida until after the probation is over and the fines are paid.
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Like all well-heeled, major criminals, his tactic is to delay, delay, delay. Unlike most well-heeled, major criminals, I think he believes his own BS.
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Hard to say how self-delusional he is at this point. There's no doubt that his mind is definitely decaying, though.
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Yes.
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With a jury, I figured all it would take would be one person to mess things up.
Sadly, one of the articles I read about the conviction said he will probably see little to no prison time. :( One of the excuses was his safety. EXCUSE ME??? There are plenty of White Color prisons that he could sit his fat ass in.
Hugs, Jon
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For this trial, prison was very unlikely. He'd be looking at a max of four years, so most likely probation especially since this is white collar and first court conviction. He's got, IIRC, $170,000 in fines to pay, which he theoretically can afford. He might have to wear an ankle monitor, which will really piss him off!
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Bring on the bracelet. :)
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Considering he still has to return to Marchen's court for sentencing, his continued outbursts may put him there: I'm not sure the gag order is lifted with the end of the trial. I'm sure he can still be held in contempt of court until after the sentencing phase is over.
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Well, unless the FL judge is replaced, she's going to drag out that trial beyond eternity. The SCOTUS is holding up the election tampering trial, the GA trial is proceeding apace, I want to say that's supposed to start in August? The Arizona trial is just starting, and he's not yet a named/subpoenaed defendant in that one. I did see something, I should have read it or at least filed it away, that additional charges are being considered in one of the trials, but I don't know what trial or what the charges are.
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It's bothersome to have justices and judges who are sandbagging for the defense.