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I am minded of a Charles Dickens quote
Jun. 22nd, 2022 01:26 pm“Now, what I want is Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts; nothing else will ever be of any service to them.”
There's also one about "Lies, damned lies, and statistics".
And then there's the Trump Train.
In my state - actually he's a County Commissioner somehow, we have Couy! Couy founded a group called Cowboys For Trump, which he created as a non-profit but it was investigated and declared to be a lobbying group and had to pay taxes and file paperwork accordingly and retroactively fined. He appealed but it was a lost cause.
And then Couy was captured on video and photographs at the January 6 freedom Lover's Capital Lynching Rehearsal Barbecue last year. And he was banned from setting foot in the Mescalero Apache Reservation, which is a part of Otero County for his participation in said event. He recently was convicted of his participation and sentenced to time served, a $3,000 fine (IIRC), and pretty hefty amount of community service. He loudly announced that he was going to take guns to DC and was shown on video loading (IIRC) a rifle, shotgun, and revolver - standard cowboy gear - into his car as he left for DC. Fortunately he left them at a friend's house before he crossed into the jurisdiction or he would have been arrested for additional violations and lost some very expensive pieces.
We had our primary election a couple of weeks ago, my wife worked at our local polling place. And the three member Otero County Commission initially refused to certify the election.
Here's Couy on the election. I don't know if it's from the day after the election, when they decided not to certify the results, or from when the Commission finally decided to certify the election. I'm guessing the latter.
"My vote to remain a no isn't based on any evidence, it's not based on any facts, it's only based on my gut feeling and my own intuition, and that's all I need."
-- Couy Griffin, Otero NM County Commissioner, on refusing to certify results of June 7th primary despite lack of evidence of voting fraud
The Secretary of State threatened to sue them and have them arrested. Monday they buckled when threatened with jail and in a two to one vote they approved the results so preparation for the November general election could go ahead.
And here's a lovely one from Rudy:
"We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence."
-- Rudy Giuliani, urging AZ state Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers (R) to help overturn 2020 election results
Teach them facts! And it won't make a bit of difference as they will make up their own fictions to justify their own existence. Let's just ignore the fact that around 90-95% of the cases they put up in court they had to withdraw because they couldn't present any evidence showing valid claims.
I have a lot of theories, too, about Donald Trump, Rudy, and all of his family and cronies. Most of them are not fit for polite company.
There's also one about "Lies, damned lies, and statistics".
And then there's the Trump Train.
In my state - actually he's a County Commissioner somehow, we have Couy! Couy founded a group called Cowboys For Trump, which he created as a non-profit but it was investigated and declared to be a lobbying group and had to pay taxes and file paperwork accordingly and retroactively fined. He appealed but it was a lost cause.
And then Couy was captured on video and photographs at the January 6 freedom Lover's Capital Lynching Rehearsal Barbecue last year. And he was banned from setting foot in the Mescalero Apache Reservation, which is a part of Otero County for his participation in said event. He recently was convicted of his participation and sentenced to time served, a $3,000 fine (IIRC), and pretty hefty amount of community service. He loudly announced that he was going to take guns to DC and was shown on video loading (IIRC) a rifle, shotgun, and revolver - standard cowboy gear - into his car as he left for DC. Fortunately he left them at a friend's house before he crossed into the jurisdiction or he would have been arrested for additional violations and lost some very expensive pieces.
We had our primary election a couple of weeks ago, my wife worked at our local polling place. And the three member Otero County Commission initially refused to certify the election.
Here's Couy on the election. I don't know if it's from the day after the election, when they decided not to certify the results, or from when the Commission finally decided to certify the election. I'm guessing the latter.
"My vote to remain a no isn't based on any evidence, it's not based on any facts, it's only based on my gut feeling and my own intuition, and that's all I need."
-- Couy Griffin, Otero NM County Commissioner, on refusing to certify results of June 7th primary despite lack of evidence of voting fraud
The Secretary of State threatened to sue them and have them arrested. Monday they buckled when threatened with jail and in a two to one vote they approved the results so preparation for the November general election could go ahead.
And here's a lovely one from Rudy:
"We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence."
-- Rudy Giuliani, urging AZ state Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers (R) to help overturn 2020 election results
Teach them facts! And it won't make a bit of difference as they will make up their own fictions to justify their own existence. Let's just ignore the fact that around 90-95% of the cases they put up in court they had to withdraw because they couldn't present any evidence showing valid claims.
I have a lot of theories, too, about Donald Trump, Rudy, and all of his family and cronies. Most of them are not fit for polite company.
