Joe Scarborough had an interesting observation on last nights Veep debate

[thewayne]

He was talking about how Vance dodged the question of whether or not Biden won the 2020 election, saying "I look to the future". Scarborough had this to say: "... one side of the race is “anti-democratic,” while the other side is “pro-democracy, pro-constitutional republic, pro-James Madison checks and balances, pro-peaceful transfer of power.”"

That sums up the two sides quite well. I've always viewed it as pro-democracy vs pro-facism, I like Joe's phrasing better.

Scarborough, the host of Morning Joe, is a former Republican Congressman and now identifies himself as an independent voter.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/morning-joe-scarborough-jd-vances-debate-answer-explains-why-im-not-supporting-republicans


I heard an interesting - broad - description of Republicans vs Democrats. Again, a very broad description, and this is primarily on economics. Republicans view a lot of economics as a zero-sum game. For me to succeed, you have to lose. Just like the game Monopoly. There has to be a winner, which also makes you think about the ego boost that some get from success and how morose they are when they're not constantly winning. The Democrats, OTOH, believe that it's possible for lots of people to win. Maybe not everyone, maybe not all the time, but that it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game. It's possible to elevate lots of people simultaneously.

I definitely prefer the latter camp.


I also read what would have been the perfect question for Tim to ask J.D. to start off the debate: "So, you figure out what kind of donut you want yet?"

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[wint3rpear]

I also read what would have been the perfect question for Tim to ask J.D. to start off the debate: "So, you figure out what kind of donut you want yet?"
WTF???

[thewayne]

JD tried to show his human side by walking into a donut shop and ordering donuts, and it turned very awkward.

[wint3rpear]

I'll bet. :o

[disneydream06]

I wish more people thought like that. :o :o :o
Hugs, Jon

[silveradept]

The zero-sum phrasing makes sense as a general outlook for the two sides. Republicans certainly seem to be very interested in making sure they win and everyone else loses on a permanent basis.

[thewayne]

As I've said before, the RNC knows their population base is not growing and is dying off.  They're kinda desperate.  I see it as if they can see a way to seize power permanently, they might take it.

[silveradept]

And given that the last attempt didn't result in their party being disbanded and the earth salted behind them, they probably think they've got decent odds to succeed at it the next time they try.

[thewayne]

There seems to be no legal way to punish or dissuade a political party, so why not keep trying?  The worst that seems to be able to happen is some people get fined or maybe thrown in the pokey for a few monts, and theyt come out all the more martyr.