About Roe v. Wade being overturned
May. 7th, 2022 12:00 pmWhich is likely to happen later this year, with potential follow-on effects possibly endangering mixed race marriage and gay marriage.
Roe v. Wade was decided during the NIXON presidency. That was NINE administrations ago, 1973. I wouldn't be surprised if some of my readers weren't alive then. Ignoring Watergate taking Nixon down, Nixon was a very mixed package and a definite man of his time. He had his race problems, his anti-semitic problems, etc. He also had some amazing positive traits and did some very positive things that went under the radar.
Here's something he said about Roe v. Wade:
"I admit, there are times when abortions are necessary, I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape."
-- President Nixon to aide Charles Colson the day after Roe v. Wade, January 1973
So even Tricky Dick, when Republicans were actual Conservatives and not whatever idiocy is infecting them these days, recognized that "there are times when abortion is necessary", such as rape. If you were to have interviewed him, he might have acknowledged incest, woman's life in danger, etc. Women's rights were becoming a ground swell at that time and weren't much on his radar at that time.
You may or may not know about the web site Quora. Sadly, you can't browse it without signing up. It's a question/answer/rant site where you can ask questions and get answers on a huge variety of topics, sometimes the questions are deliberate trolling, sometimes the answers are thoughtful, sometimes stupid, sometimes equally trolly and ranting.
I came across an amazingly good answer in an Athiest feed. Here's part of it, the rest is under a cut as it's kind of long, with a link to the source at the end.
If you’re an atheist, what would be your motive in spreading atheism, and why would you care what others believe?
If you ask me a week ago, I wouldn’t care less about spreading atheism. In fact, I probably wouldn’t even answer this question at all, considering plenty of atheists had expressed similar feelings. Atheism is often compared to not collecting stamps, which really isn’t something you need to “spread”.
However, something happened this Monday and I had changed my mind about my entire indifference to atheism, or more precisely about my view on Christianity.
I have always seen the religion of Christianity as an organization of great power, and the organization is capable of using it for good and for bad. And despite all the atrocities committed by the Church (Christian or Catholic), I’ve always been willing to give the religion the benefit of doubt. I’ve always been willing to accept that the core teachings, love, tolerance, and compassion, are good. But people twisted its message to justify their evil deeds.
I no longer believe that. I think the core teachings of Christianity are not love, tolerance, or compassion. The core teaching of Christianity is obedience. Christianity as a religion, Christianity as an organization, had done more harm to our society than good, a LOT more harm than good. It’s not about evil people using religion to do harm. It is good people doing good deeds, and some of them just so happen, are Christians.
As I’m writing this answer, the evangelical Christian conservatives had collectively decided that women do not deserve bodily autonomy. They have worked their way up to the supreme court and applied their Christian Canon Law to every woman in the US, regardless of our individual religious beliefs (or the lack of).
Sure, you can argue that American evangelical Christians do not represent Christianity.
My question is, where are the good Christians? WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GOOD CHRISTIANS?! Why don’t the good Christians come out in droves to condemn these people? Why aren’t they protesting against it?
The thing is, if you read the Bible, I mean, really, REALLY read it. you would not be a Christian.
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Roe v. Wade was decided during the NIXON presidency. That was NINE administrations ago, 1973. I wouldn't be surprised if some of my readers weren't alive then. Ignoring Watergate taking Nixon down, Nixon was a very mixed package and a definite man of his time. He had his race problems, his anti-semitic problems, etc. He also had some amazing positive traits and did some very positive things that went under the radar.
Here's something he said about Roe v. Wade:
"I admit, there are times when abortions are necessary, I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape."
-- President Nixon to aide Charles Colson the day after Roe v. Wade, January 1973
So even Tricky Dick, when Republicans were actual Conservatives and not whatever idiocy is infecting them these days, recognized that "there are times when abortion is necessary", such as rape. If you were to have interviewed him, he might have acknowledged incest, woman's life in danger, etc. Women's rights were becoming a ground swell at that time and weren't much on his radar at that time.
You may or may not know about the web site Quora. Sadly, you can't browse it without signing up. It's a question/answer/rant site where you can ask questions and get answers on a huge variety of topics, sometimes the questions are deliberate trolling, sometimes the answers are thoughtful, sometimes stupid, sometimes equally trolly and ranting.
I came across an amazingly good answer in an Athiest feed. Here's part of it, the rest is under a cut as it's kind of long, with a link to the source at the end.
If you’re an atheist, what would be your motive in spreading atheism, and why would you care what others believe?
If you ask me a week ago, I wouldn’t care less about spreading atheism. In fact, I probably wouldn’t even answer this question at all, considering plenty of atheists had expressed similar feelings. Atheism is often compared to not collecting stamps, which really isn’t something you need to “spread”.
However, something happened this Monday and I had changed my mind about my entire indifference to atheism, or more precisely about my view on Christianity.
I have always seen the religion of Christianity as an organization of great power, and the organization is capable of using it for good and for bad. And despite all the atrocities committed by the Church (Christian or Catholic), I’ve always been willing to give the religion the benefit of doubt. I’ve always been willing to accept that the core teachings, love, tolerance, and compassion, are good. But people twisted its message to justify their evil deeds.
I no longer believe that. I think the core teachings of Christianity are not love, tolerance, or compassion. The core teaching of Christianity is obedience. Christianity as a religion, Christianity as an organization, had done more harm to our society than good, a LOT more harm than good. It’s not about evil people using religion to do harm. It is good people doing good deeds, and some of them just so happen, are Christians.
As I’m writing this answer, the evangelical Christian conservatives had collectively decided that women do not deserve bodily autonomy. They have worked their way up to the supreme court and applied their Christian Canon Law to every woman in the US, regardless of our individual religious beliefs (or the lack of).
Sure, you can argue that American evangelical Christians do not represent Christianity.
My question is, where are the good Christians? WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GOOD CHRISTIANS?! Why don’t the good Christians come out in droves to condemn these people? Why aren’t they protesting against it?
The thing is, if you read the Bible, I mean, really, REALLY read it. you would not be a Christian.
( Read more... )