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A European car rental company known as Sixt is dumping all of its Teslas due to costly repairs for the cars, particularly collision damage. In their place: 100,000 electric cars from BYD of China.

This is a general problem with Tesla, which is only going to be exacerbated with the Cyberstuck, err, Cybertruck. Body parts are hard to get replacements for when they're damaged, and a rental car that's down waiting for parts is not something that fleets can afford. Hertz was a big news story when they bought a ton of Teslas for its fleet, not so much of a news story when they got rid of them because of the costs when they got bent out of shape.

The Cybertruck is going to be even worse as the body panels are steel, it will be another factory part and they'll be devoting as much production as possible to getting completed units off the line for sale, not for collision damage repair.

Interesting story about the Cyberstuck moniker. A Tesla employee took a pre-production Cybertruck up a mountain in California to fetch a Christmas tree and got stuck. Didn't have the proper tires for off-road, much less snow and mud, and a software bug had disabled the locking hubs. It took a Ford F-150 to pull him free. But the worse part? The Tesla had NO TOW POINTS. Hopefully that's been rectified in the production truck, otherwise how is it legal? If it doesn't have tow points, I don't see how any right-thinking tow truck operator would pick one up as it would be hard to tow one without additional damage to it!

Interesting times.

https://jalopnik.com/rental-company-sixt-will-begin-dumping-tesla-fleet-due-1851081220

Date: 2023-12-18 11:41 pm (UTC)
armiphlage: Ukraine (Default)
From: [personal profile] armiphlage
Lack of tow points is a feature; if your cybercart gets stuck, just buy a new one.

Date: 2023-12-19 01:38 am (UTC)
dewline: Text: Sarcasm Alert (annoyance)
From: [personal profile] dewline
A feature to His Sinkness, maybe.

No one else with any sense.

Date: 2023-12-19 12:05 pm (UTC)
armiphlage: Ukraine (Default)
From: [personal profile] armiphlage
Well, any potholes will eventually fill up with stuck Cyberwhatevers, making the way smoother for everyone else.

Date: 2023-12-19 12:16 pm (UTC)
dewline: Text - "On the DEWLine" (Default)
From: [personal profile] dewline
You may have a point. Especially for those with better-made EVs.

Date: 2023-12-19 02:28 am (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
Tell me your vehicle is designed by a rich dudebro without telling me.... etc.

Date: 2023-12-19 12:07 pm (UTC)
armiphlage: Ukraine (Default)
From: [personal profile] armiphlage
Like all the designs that obviously didn't consider the suffering of those who have to clean or maintain the finished product.

Date: 2023-12-19 01:19 am (UTC)
kellan_the_tabby: My face, reflected in a round mirror I'm holding up; the rest of the image is the side of my head, hair shorn short. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kellan_the_tabby
they don't

have

...

oh my GODS

I was mad enough when we found out my roommate's car doesn't have a tow point on the front (much cheaper to flat-tow it behind the van than to pay for a truck, & we managed it anyway, but the experience was dubbed Quaint & Picturesque)

but

NONE??

Date: 2023-12-19 07:40 am (UTC)
disneydream06: (Disney Funny)
From: [personal profile] disneydream06
Oh, poor Tesla.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs, Jon

Date: 2023-12-20 03:26 am (UTC)
disneydream06: (Disney Angry)
From: [personal profile] disneydream06
I should rephrase that...
I do feel sorry for the workers, but not at all for the Turd at the top. :o

Well ...

Date: 2023-12-20 10:51 am (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
>>If it doesn't have tow points, I don't see how any right-thinking tow truck operator would pick one up as it would be hard to tow one without additional damage to it!<<

You put it on a flatbed, like a car that's too wrecked to tow normally. Most towing companies have one, but they may have only one and it usually costs more to use.

Re: Well ...

Date: 2023-12-20 09:32 pm (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
You use the tow points if they're intact. With a wrecked car, you often have to use a strap that sort of scoops the whole mess onto the bed. So that approach would work with anything that does not have a usable toy point. I don't think cars should be built without good tow points, but there are workarounds to compensate for stupid engineering.

Re: Well ...

Date: 2023-12-20 10:59 pm (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
I would certainly want all street-legal vehicles to have tow points, and preferably, everything else that might need towing (like tractors). But my standards are very different from the mainstream.

Certainly people are at liberty to avoid purchasing vehicles that don't have tow points, provided that feature is available on other models.

Date: 2023-12-20 07:36 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
I suspect that most of the successes of Tesla have been due to the name of the person who is associated with it, rather than the things themselves being well-designed or well-produced or otherwise good vehicles to have on the road or to drive. And the longer that Tesla continues to exist, the more I am convinced that my position on this, just articulated, is the right one.

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