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"Back in the day, really, when people would talk about our military in a poor way, somebody would shoot 'em. And there'd be nothing said about that, because they did what was wrong. You don't talk about our troops. You support our troops."

-- Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher

And exactly when was "the day"? I don't recall anyone ever being shot for criticizing the military, but my knowledge of history is far from authoritative.

But what I REALLY want to know is: WHEN WILL HIS FIVE MINUTES BE UP?!

Date: 2009-03-31 04:32 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
"The Day" might still be several rural parts of this country - I can see where Mr. "The Plumber" might have been thinking of when he said that. The shooting probably would have been an "accident" after fisticuffs or something...

The fact that he thinks we should all be uncritically supportive of both those who go out to kill and be killed and the people sending them out there says a lot about who the Republicans want as their everyman.

Date: 2009-04-01 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewayne.livejournal.com
I can see fisticuffs happening, but he makes it sound like a bloodbath. Monday night Russet was commenting that she was listening to Fresh Air, and they had reporters complaining that the Obama Administration wasn't as "on track" as the previous administration with everyone in the org spouting the same homogeneous line. I think it is important to think critically, and that was something that was actively discouraged over the last how many years?

It certainly isn't the military's fault if they're sent to do an unpopular job, it's the government's fault for putting them there in the first place. But then layer in: to whom should they listen? It's a no-win situation. If the military does something bad, say, something along the lines of My Lai, then they should be criticized.

*sigh*


And I think I got it wrong, didn't Warhol say it was 15 minutes?

Date: 2009-04-01 04:20 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
Differences of opinions are important so that you don't run lockstep into stupid things, like invading countries that didn't have anything to do with the stated reasons for fighting a war on a concept. Dissent was certainly squashed in the last administration.

15 minutes, according to Warhol. Thought you were being clever by shortening the time, because Mr. "the Plumber" doesn't even have enough to get to fifteen minutes.

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