Always strive to learn something useful. --Sophocles

"Maybe it says he's a Muslim. I don't know."
— Donald Trump, on Obama's birth certificate

"Personally, I think it is brilliant."
— Trump advisor Roger Stone, on raising the birth certificate issue

It would appear that Trump's adviser's memory doesn't extend past 2008 or so. If this is indicative of the quality of his advisers, he stands even less of a chance than I originally thought. A birth certificate may show the religion(s) of the parents, but that's hardly a label that applies to a person later in life if they choose to follow some other faith.

Here's a couple of Snopes cites for The Edification of The Donald and The Roger:
Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate is valid: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is a forgery: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

And better yet: The Donald produced his own birth certificate, but it wasn't an official birth certificate: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0311/Trump_fails_to_produce_birth_certificate.html. So maybe Trump was born in Kenya and he had the document altered to make it look like Obama was born there! Well played, Mister Trump, well played.

I got another such POS from my dad today and wrote the following reply:

(the email said that he attended an LA college under his father's name and got the Fulbright scholarship as an Indonisian student. It also said that the Supreme Court was about to hear the birth certificate lawsuit.)

HOAX. He attended the LA college under his own name and was called Barry Obama by other students. Leo Donofrio's lawsuit was denied by the Federal Court in NJ and never taken up by the Supreme Court. The Fullbright program does not fund students from Indonesia, another blatant falsehood. And though it's been clipped from this forwarding, the original story circulated with an alleged date from the Associated Press of April 1, 2010. Hmmm, what else is April 1?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

(It then went on to say that he traveled to Pakistan on a non-American passport.)

This forwarded message is actually two hoaxes. The Pakistan travel hoax is false because Pakistan was not on the no-travel list at that time. There were extended travel advisories at that time, which are basically warnings that there are dangerous areas and events going on. But there was no restriction on travel, so he would have had no problem going there on an American passport.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

(I came across this while researching the previous and liked it.)

This is an interesting piece on people in the military who refuse to travel because they doubt Obama's citizenship and have sued to prevent deployment. Obama's birth certificate has been shown on national television by the Hawaii Secretary of State as authentic. In fact, all of these suits have been dismissed and a judge has fined a lawyer for filing these suits because the lawyer abused their privilege to make the suit a personal political agenda.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/carter.asp


HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII, GET OVER IT!


He was elected. He inherited a crappy economy. Who was in office for the previous eight years? Was the budget deficit growing or shrinking when they went in to office? What was the deficit doing when they left?

If you don't like Obama, vote him out in the next election. I don't like some of the things he has done (and hasn't done) on many issues, but he's still the President. In fact, overall, I can't say that I really like him. But I like him a lot more than the previous President. The simple fact is that I think it's going to be impossible for one president to do everything you want done. I don't have the same agenda that you have, so how can one man represent both of us? HE CAN'T. COMPROMISE ON ISSUES IS ESSENTIAL.


Also, I LOVE SNOPES.